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Complete 4-3-3 Tactics v2

Tactical overhaul, two tactics included (433 DM and 433 AM).

By on Feb 06, 2017   Mar 30, 2017   96941 views   50 comments
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Football Manager 2017 Tactics - Complete 4-3-3 Tactics v2
Greetings to all fellow football managers.

This is a two tactic set up with different formations.

The aim is to employ possession and attacking football with lower/higher tempo depending on the situation.

  • The highest possession I have achieved is 75%, the average after a full season is 60%.

  • Awesome average passing success rate of 86%.

  • With the tactics I have won all possible titles during the 8 seasons, including a quintuple (5 titles) in my third season, an incredible septuple (7 titles) in my seventh season and a sixtuple in my eighth season. The Premier League was won 8 times consecutive, the Champions League 4 times (3 consecutive), breaking almost every competition and club record in the process!

But lets get down to business:

The two tactics have slightly different team and player instructions and different mentalities.
Which one to use and when?

  • The 433 AM or also seen as 4231 is a more attacking formation, it is best employed when the opposition uses more players in defensive positions and less than 3 players in attack (including AMR/AML/AMC/ST). Since we have 4 players in attack it is sensible to use the counter mentality, to draw the opposition and use our numbers to break forward quickly with more space to exploit.

  • The 433 DM is the classic version aimed more on controlling the ball anywhere on the pitch. It is generally a more defensive formation, which allows us to use a more aggresive mentality (control). Appropriate time to use it would be when the opposition uses more than 3 players in attack (including AMR/AML/AMC/ST).

  • If the opposition is using exactly 3 players in attack it is important to decide which one to use depending on the quality of the opposition. If you are not sure go for the more defensive 433 DM, and switch it in the second half if you are struggling to create chances.

*This is just a guideline and doesn't mean that the tactics won't work against specific formations, use them however you think is best.
*Both tactics are created for attacking possession football, if u need a waste time defensive tactic better find another one and put it in the third slot.


The tactics have set pieces routines for every aspect and though I am no expert in them I believe they are good enough.

About the player positions: 433 DM

  • Goalkeeper - defend: Any good goalie will do, but good footwork and rushing out are a bonus. Suitable wonderkids: Donnarumma, Ederson, Rajkovic.

  • LB - Wing Back support: This player will stay wider to provide support for the inside forward in attack and provide crosses from the byline. Suitable wonderkids: Grimaldo, Gaya, Shaw.

  • RB - Full Back support: A less attacking full back, who stays narrower to provide more defensive cover and rarely crosses. Suitable wonderkids: Henrichs, Bellerin, Lirola

  • CBs - CD defend: Typical offside trap setup. Suitable wonderkids: Rugani, Laporte, Zouma, Varane, Marquinhos.

  • DM - DM defend: Holding midfielder providing defensive support. Suitable wonderkids: Maia, Bazoer, Neves.

  • MCL - CM support: Basically a box to box midfielder who doesn't roam from position. You need a player who can defend and attack. Suitable wonderkids: Renato, Dele, Cook.

  • MCR - CM attack: A very technical role,acting as an advanced playmaker he will provide the link between midfield and attack. Suitable wonderkids: Bernardo Silva, Ante Coric, Odegaard.

  • AML - IF attack: He stays narrower and provides creative passes, dribbles and also shoots when in good position. Suitable wonderkids: Mbappe, Pulisic, Martial.

  • AMR - Winger attack: A wider attacking option to provide more unpredictability, he will dribble more to the wide and provide crosses, he will also shoot when in good position. If you have a left footed player, teach him PPM (trait) to "cut inside from the right wing". Suitable wonderkids: Lemar, Ousmane, Ounas.

  • ST - Deep Lying Forward support: He will link the two wide players and also provide the finishing touch. Any good striker can work. Suitable wonderkids: Origi, Kuki, Eggestein, Dybala.

  • 433 AM differences

  • MCL - CM defend: Holding midfielder moved to CM position.

  • AMC - AM support: This is the player acting as a playmaker and providing the support between midfield and attack.

  • ST - Advanced Forward attack: More advanced striker, because of the player behind him.
*The listed wonderkids are only a few to provide some ideas for your team, there are many more good options on the market.
Tips:

  • If u get a red card remove the AML or AMC

  • The team training I use is balanced with average intensity, choose match tactics as preparation during the preseason and when the tactics are fluid switch to defending positioning for away games and attacking movement for home games. For individual training just train your players for the appropriate positions.

  • I don't use any opposition instructions.

  • Try to buy more players with high teamwork rating, it applies well within the very fluid team shape.

  • I like to train my attacking players to use one-two passes, which helps a lot in creating chances in some matches. Train your MCR, AML, AMR, AMC and ST.

  • Team talks are important to keep morale high, try to encourage your players and be less harsh in away matches. If the morale is low, a good way to lift it up is to arrange a team meeting.

Screenshots

Chelsea screens with Old version 3









Last version resulted in incredible 170 goals in 61 matches in all competitions (113 league):





Old Versions:


Please provide feedback on how the tactics work for your team!
Thank you!



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Discussion: Complete 4-3-3 Tactics v2

50 comments have been posted so far.

  • Den1s's avatar
    It will be more defensive, because the DLP has "hold position" and the player will tend to stay back.
  • Aman's avatar
    Hey Den1s, I have one question. Is it OK if I change cm support position to dlp support role ? How is it gonna effect the tactics ? Btw I am using original version 1 tactics 4-3-3 formation
  • BrickCommo23's avatar
    Thanks pal,

    That's was all I was wondering really. Played 3 so far, 2 wins and 1 draw.

    Pretty good with slightly low familiarity on a couple of subjects. If only I could get Griezmann to play well!!

    Cheers
  • Den1s's avatar
    Yeah I am keeping an eye on the comments, but i dont have enough time at the moment to play the game and i think the current version works well, though no tactic is 100% perfect, so if you think something must be changed, just do it.
  • BrickCommo23's avatar
    Hi,

    This looks exactly like the kind of system I need a bit of help with on my Arsenal save,season 5 has gone right down the pan and I think I need a bit of a rethink and retool.

    Are you still keeping an eye on this thread mate? I've got the pair of formations (41221 and 4231 v2) all set up and ready to go.

    Hope it helps me out of this pickle I am in!
  • Aman's avatar
    Hey Den1s it would be really nice if someone could test all these tactics and tell us which is the best one among them. And I find 4-3-3 tactics to be less effective defensively against big teams. Would be really awesome if you could make 4-3-3 tactics a little bit more effective in defense against big teams. Cheers. Can't wait for your next update ))
  • Aman's avatar
    Ho Den1s, good tactics. Are you planning to do an update soon ? My concern is that these tactics are good at home but bad at away games. Is there any chance of updating 4-3-3 tactics again,the reason is I'd like to switch roles of cm center to another role like dpl playmaker or any other role that will improve tactics defensively. Thanks just was interested if you are planning to do v6 of 4-3-3 tactics
  • Den1s's avatar
    Try and use whichever works best for your team, thats why i have put links to old versions, its confusing because i always look to improve something, but i cant test everything with different situations, players and teams, so its better just to see what you like or dont like, after all we all play for fun.
  • tarlabasi's avatar
    Hi Den1s.
    There is an interesting situation.You suggest new version tactics but Monaco is getting better results with the old tactics.I am really confused :)
  • Ta31_a's avatar
    Hey @den1s I don't think you saw me. But can you show screenshots of the instructions because ic ant see them on the tactic. Thanks
  • Den1s's avatar
    Yeah it became a little confusing, the links in the description are older versions with 433 only, when i added 4231 i started from v1 again, basically the last version is in the "download now" button.
  • skc's avatar
    hey bro! love your tactics... i was using monaco with your v2s and won everything hahaha but I was looking for your v5 and are all 433 (41221)... wich of them are better? or when I use one or other? are the v5 better than v2 and why?
  • Den1s's avatar
    @lorenzo81 the last one is in the "Download Now" button, the older versions are in the bottom of the description, use the one u think is best for you.
  • willybroadband's avatar
    @Den1s thanks man
  • lorenzo81's avatar
    hi Den1s
    thanks for your tactic, its greatly worked to me that i manage dortmund.....but i little confuse, which last version that i must download?
  • Den1s's avatar
  • willybroadband's avatar
    @Den1s do you have version 5 available to upload please dude? Definitely my favourite & the most effective tactic for my Schalke side, but I deleted it (silly me)
  • Ta31_a's avatar
    What instructions do u use cause I can't see them
  • Den1s's avatar
    Highly recommend everyone to download the last version, much better results, I am getting 3,5 goals average per match with Monaco. Will post some screens maybe tomorrow.
  • Den1s's avatar
    Btw it is not neccessary to have a right footed winger, generally i prefer to use left footed who has PPM (trait) "cuts inside from the right wing", meaning he will do both run wide and inside, depending on the situation.
  • Vali184's avatar
    Thank you very much Den1s!!! I got two good attacking midfielders that are left footed.
  • Den1s's avatar
  • Vali184's avatar
    hey, can i use inverted roles? like if/wb on right side and winger/fb on left side? if yes, do i have to switch MCL to AP and MCR to CMS?
  • Den1s's avatar
    Updated and included new 433 AM (4231) tactic, I am aware some people experienced difficulty in away matches against strong teams with version 5, I believe the new version provides better balance.
  • TomDavies's avatar
    Gotta say this isn't working for me at all so far. But I can't see why! I'm quite an experienced FM player, never had this drastically different results from the description. Playing as Man City, home for is fine (W16, D2, L1) but away is a completely different kettle of fish. Can't win away with this tactic at all. My away win ratio is about 30%. Even when using standard and counter versions. Anyone else experiencing similar? And anyone know how to fix it?

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