New features for FM 2012?

Er, let's not panic now, haha. I don't see why we shouldn't debate about the features we'd like to see; it doesn't matter where the ideas originally come from.
If someone would like to write a comparison article between FIFA Manager and Football Manager, and Championship Manager... well, I'd love to see that.

Next on my list of new topics to start, is one to rant about all the things we don't like about FM11. And after a few months, I will ultimately compose a summary article for each occasion; a list with features we want to see on a future FM, and another list with things we don't like in FM11.

fifa manager- absolutely BS except for the youth system. they have separate youth teams and youth leagues for each age group witch is great. in real life every club has youth teams competing in their own youth leagues, you can build football schools all over the world(ajax style in real life), you can improve club facilities. other than this, the game is crap, very easy(i won the UCL with steaua in my first season many times). it might be good for newbies of the manager game style.

championship manager- our first love...and the backbone of our present FM. i remember skipping school just to play CM(i almost repeated a year of high school because i didn't went to classes). now it's just a transition game for FM.

FM- THE BEST GAME EVER!! my first experience with the game was in 2005 when i've asked a friend to give me a cd with CM, instead i got a cd with an anonymous game called football manager 2005. when i started playing it i saw that it was like CM, but better(it had the romanian 1st division as a selectable league to play). now the game has everything(except for a decent youth system) huge life-like database, many options in the tactics screen, good training system, great transfer system and may more...
i will probably play this game until i die(or until SI gives up on it...unlikely)

my review wrote in a hurry...

I would like to see attendance be linked to city sizes. Currently, you can take a lower-league club up to a top division and the club's average attendance will increase as your club reputation increases. This makes sense if you are managing a club in a large urban centre. However, if you are in a smaller town with a limited population, there is a natural ceiling on how high your attendance can be. This would create more of a challenge for lower league managers and also be more realistic.

It will be fun to have a "darker" side of football transfer. For example like Ashley Cole transfer from Arsenal to Chelsea. You can set a meeting straight to the player, "Accidentally" Meet him in the restaurant or You can approach the player agent. Some like that. It will be easier to sign someone from the rival club that already "Extremely Interested" with transfer but the price is very expensive. And will make the manager being attack by the press and fans. The press conference is very easy to manage, the press never attack you. This one reason to make the press conference more harder to manage.

Fans also never being so aggressive. For example lika making a pressure for Hodgson ini Liverpool now

And the most important thing is insurance for player injured during national team fixture. I lost Torres and Gerrard for 6 Months and the country just dont give anything.

Sorry for bad english...

In FM10 there were an option to offer a contract to a player who is not really interested. In FM11 I don't have this option because he don't want to speak with me which is nonsense. In real life if a rich lower division club (like Hoffenheim in Bundesliga 2) would offer a high salary to a respected player he would accept it anyway.

Transfer budgets. Its ridicullus when you see the amont spent by Italian and French clubs (Ł30-40mil/year). In real life they don't have this kind of amount to spend.

The other thing about signing is that if I find a good player and there are more interested clubs and if I place an offer they will also place an offer eventough thay have 4 player like this and they won't place the player to the team and they will sell him in 1-2 years time...

# mizie : In FM10 there were an option to offer a contract to a player who is not really interested. In FM11 I don't have this option because he don't want to speak with me which is nonsense. In real life if a rich lower division club (like Hoffenheim in Bundesliga 2) would offer a high salary to a respected player he would accept it anyway.

Yeah I know in FM2010 you could offer a contract even if a player wasn't intresting you could still offer a contract and player could sign it.

Personally I would like to be able to talk to the press about agents.. obviously at your own peril, but still to be able to make comment about them would be kinda cool..

I would like to be able to declare interest in managing national teams..
eg: not when the job is vacant,
But maybe make comment that one day in your career you would like to manage your home nation, if the opportunity ever arose.

Random Interview requests from journalists... eg: Not just the standard press conferences..

The ability to comment on a players international form, eg: A player in your team has been in good form for his national team.. Or maybe comment that you feel one of your players is ready for the step up to international football...

At the moment I just dont feel like there is any collaboration between club and country, It's almost like The Football manager world is a very narrow Club Only or Country only type thing, I think it would be nice to able to comment on a players international career/form/selection/being dropped..

1) Club reputation vs money
When starting off in the lower leagues, you are hampered in signing players, (I think solely on club reputation). So, even if you have loads of money (transfer fee and wages included), free players are what you are restricted to sign.

2) Aggressive agents?
As you progress up the leagues, so your prospects of buying players improve. However, because of the desperation to sign players you often allow clauses in their contracts which you would never otherwise agree to, for example, the guaranteed highest wage clause. Promotion to a new league usually means that you want to sign better players which ask for higher wages. Your existing players with that clause then automatically gets a wage increase when the new, more expensive player arrives.

3) Renegotiation of contract
This isn't a big problem. You can either remove the clause from the negotiation with the agent, which can obviously backfire OR you can cede to the demands of the agent.

I would like to see negotiations going both ways i.e. players will ask for a better deal vs manager will suggest lower contract or transfer list. I have been forced to use the transfer list (not needed by the club) for a number of players because they do not want to accept a lower contract.

Also when I am selling a players with a big wage to another club which cannot afford to pay his wages in full, then he will approach and ask that he'll leave if we pay the deficit. Yet the same isn't true when I am trying to sign a high earner from another club. At least I should have the option of suggesting it to a player which is interested in signing for the club.


Just some of my experiences. Don't know whether this is shared by others.

I think that they should put fans in the correct colours 2 the teams playing, and make the pre match meting more useful as well as more questions in the press conferences also more answers, in addition player estermated values 2 b more realistic because u could sign a player on free and at the end of the season he could be worth several millions an if ur in a low league club he is a bugger to sell.
(privet chat with more than 1 player would be handy)
Finally clubs with larger population should get higher attendees and the attendees not to go with the reputation but if the club is playing on form the crowd should increase nd also some of the ticket sale should be put in your transfer funds for jan sales of end of season sales.

i know i will get slated for this as someone else already has...but i think FM could take some ideas from FIFA manager,

i dont mean drastic things, but i own both games and like each for different reasons, (by the way i like FM more)

for example:-

FM manager allows you to have feeder clubs and parent clubs and you get different benefits depending on what kind of deal the boards sign. and they are nearly limitless, or they have been in my experience, however in FIFA your only allowed a couple,

i also like the training and tactics systems in FM more than i do in FIFA just because its a lot better.

however, there are a few things i like in FIFA manager that i think FM should take a look at,

for example:-

the youth set-up thats in FIFA is alot better than the one in FM for the reasons mentioned above, and i also like the fact you can build other buildings, that essentially have nothing to do with football, like shopping malls and stuff in your city/town. the last thing i like better is the Build Your Stadium feature you get when you want to upgrade your stadium or expand it, and i know this might be hard to integrate into FM but i think it would make the game more fun to play,

again i know i will probably get slated for some of the things but this is just my opinion

# adamahc : i know i will get slated for this as someone else already has...but i think FM could take some ideas from FIFA manager,

i dont mean drastic things, but i own both games and like each for different reasons, (by the way i like FM more)

for example:-

FM manager allows you to have feeder clubs and parent clubs and you get different benefits depending on what kind of deal the boards sign. and they are nearly limitless, or they have been in my experience, however in FIFA your only allowed a couple,

i also like the training and tactics systems in FM more than i do in FIFA just because its a lot better.

however, there are a few things i like in FIFA manager that i think FM should take a look at,

for example:-

the youth set-up thats in FIFA is alot better than the one in FM for the reasons mentioned above, and i also like the fact you can build other buildings, that essentially have nothing to do with football, like shopping malls and stuff in your city/town. the last thing i like better is the Build Your Stadium feature you get when you want to upgrade your stadium or expand it, and i know this might be hard to integrate into FM but i think it would make the game more fun to play,

again i know i will probably get slated for some of the things but this is just my opinion

As I have said many times before, FIFA manager is a fun, short-term GAME. FM is more of a long-term SIM, which concentrates on realism, not just making the game super-fun.

ino its more short term and more realistic but i still think they would be good additions, and think about it when a club decides to build a new stadium or expand the current one they have to work out the plans for it which is what i mentioned above

about all the malls and stuff besides football... you do realize that there isn't a manager in the world who has a singel word to say in these matters ?

however i agree with Stam about shortlist-scouting, I've been annoyed by this for years... also with the new contract-negotiation, i hate when a player is all but signed, and then all of a sudden a new team comes along and steal him from under my nose without giving me a chanse to match thier bid, really annoying !!!

i would also like to see the possibility to ask your board to check up possible "super signings", this is now possible when you've been granted extended tranfersbudget, however, i think this should allways be an alternative, eaven if the board are most likeley to refuse...

i know that bit was a bit far out but i was using it as an example

Easyer way to sing 2 grade players with 2 grade clubs. example last year in reality dinamo zagreb signed well known Leandro Cufre,but in game there is apsolutly no frickn way to sing him or similar players!