Do you think that goal line tech would improve the game? I think it would spoil the game as referees decisions been right or wrong is part of the game and the old football the chant - "The referees a ******" etc is part of the atmosphere but if everything was based around cameras etc I believe it would lesson the game.
i think what uefa has done is brilliant just have an extra ref around the penalty area. thats as far as it should go. dont want refs to go around to the camera every other minute and slow the game down.
I agree that it is part of the game. But for European matches as well as top-division matches and international matches, it is just irresponsible to let such massive amounts of money be dependent on the capabilities of the referee. In my opinion, goals, penalties, red cards and offside should all be automated.
Offside because it is so easy to do with a computer and wrong calls can be extremely frustrating. For example this weekend Jan Vertonghen's (Ajax) winning goal against Twente was cancelled because of offside, just because the assistant referee failed to see a player standing 2 meters in front of him on the back-line..
I am just sick and tired of seeing referees instead of players deciding matches.. Additionally, it would be a benefit to reduce corruption, as referees will have much less power on their own.
Finally, it will probably also massively reduce hatred and violence against referees.
It seems insane how EVERYONE in the world can see on their TV that it was a wrong call apart from the one person who is making the decisions. What the fuck is going on there? That doesn't make any sense to me!
These top-matches usually already have 10-20 cameras fixed on the field, so it would be a tiny effort to introduce such technology.
Offside because it is so easy to do with a computer and wrong calls can be extremely frustrating. For example this weekend Jan Vertonghen's (Ajax) winning goal against Twente was cancelled because of offside, just because the assistant referee failed to see a player standing 2 meters in front of him on the back-line..
I am just sick and tired of seeing referees instead of players deciding matches.. Additionally, it would be a benefit to reduce corruption, as referees will have much less power on their own.
Finally, it will probably also massively reduce hatred and violence against referees.
It seems insane how EVERYONE in the world can see on their TV that it was a wrong call apart from the one person who is making the decisions. What the fuck is going on there? That doesn't make any sense to me!
These top-matches usually already have 10-20 cameras fixed on the field, so it would be a tiny effort to introduce such technology.
Say they did bring in the video ref at the top clubs and the best leagues and then the FA Cup draw happens and you get a couple of ties like this:
Liverpool v Crewe and Darlington v Man Utd
Liverpool obviously have the advantage of a video ref and man utd dont. In both games the prem club is winning 1-0 and the other club scores a goal that is so tough to call as offside you need to use technology to get the correct answer. This is a 50-50 decision for a Linesman who makes an instant decision to call crewe's a goal but darlington's not a goal. Liverpool complain while crewe are celebrating and 2 minutes later the goal is disallowed, Crewe lose the game but could have had a massive rematch at home with the finacially gain from that kind of occassion. Later that day it turns out that darlingtons goal was actually onside so they would have recieved a rematch if it had gone in.
What im trying to say is that the rule is only fair if it is rolled out accross the game as a whole, I dont mean down to sunday league or anything like that I just mean at all professional clubs accross the world.
Another problem as well could have been if darlington beat man utd with an offside goal then Man Utd could appeal aggainst the game and big clubs would make small teams go to them rather than the other way round leading these clubs to lose out on the money from the game.
My last and probabley the biggest point to make is can players appeal against every referee decision or is it just a few and how long will it add to the length of a game cause I dont think a 2 minute video break every 5 minutes will be very entertaining
Liverpool v Crewe and Darlington v Man Utd
Liverpool obviously have the advantage of a video ref and man utd dont. In both games the prem club is winning 1-0 and the other club scores a goal that is so tough to call as offside you need to use technology to get the correct answer. This is a 50-50 decision for a Linesman who makes an instant decision to call crewe's a goal but darlington's not a goal. Liverpool complain while crewe are celebrating and 2 minutes later the goal is disallowed, Crewe lose the game but could have had a massive rematch at home with the finacially gain from that kind of occassion. Later that day it turns out that darlingtons goal was actually onside so they would have recieved a rematch if it had gone in.
What im trying to say is that the rule is only fair if it is rolled out accross the game as a whole, I dont mean down to sunday league or anything like that I just mean at all professional clubs accross the world.
Another problem as well could have been if darlington beat man utd with an offside goal then Man Utd could appeal aggainst the game and big clubs would make small teams go to them rather than the other way round leading these clubs to lose out on the money from the game.
My last and probabley the biggest point to make is can players appeal against every referee decision or is it just a few and how long will it add to the length of a game cause I dont think a 2 minute video break every 5 minutes will be very entertaining
# bigrich : Say they did bring in the video ref at the top clubs and the best leagues and then the FA Cup draw happens and you get a couple of ties like this:
Liverpool v Crewe and Darlington v Man Utd
Liverpool obviously have the advantage of a video ref and man utd dont. In both games the prem club is winning 1-0 and the other club scores a goal that is so tough to call as offside you need to use technology to get the correct answer. This is a 50-50 decision for a Linesman who makes an instant decision to call crewe's a goal but darlington's not a goal. Liverpool complain while crewe are celebrating and 2 minutes later the goal is disallowed, Crewe lose the game but could have had a massive rematch at home with the finacially gain from that kind of occassion. Later that day it turns out that darlingtons goal was actually onside so they would have recieved a rematch if it had gone in.
What im trying to say is that the rule is only fair if it is rolled out accross the game as a whole, I dont mean down to sunday league or anything like that I just mean at all professional clubs accross the world.
Another problem as well could have been if darlington beat man utd with an offside goal then Man Utd could appeal aggainst the game and big clubs would make small teams go to them rather than the other way round leading these clubs to lose out on the money from the game.
My last and probabley the biggest point to make is can players appeal against every referee decision or is it just a few and how long will it add to the length of a game cause I dont think a 2 minute video break every 5 minutes will be very entertaining
In the FA cup you can simply use the technology from the quarter finals and on or so. And if the home team doesn't have enough cameras then you simply don't use it? Furthermore, it is indeed also possible to introduce it for all professional clubs in Europe. But the technology should not be too expensive, then. (I am sure Samsung or sony etc will gladly make the cameras cheaply if their logo will be presented on the playbacks :P).
Finally, no. Players should not be allowed to appeal against a decision. If a referee sees a bad foul, he whistles. Within 10 second the camera guys will be able to tell him how bad it was. Ref picks a card or not and done. Since the TV usually already shows like 5 replays of a bad foul, this would certainly not bring down the level of entertainment or slow down the game.
I am sure mistakes will not be ruled out completely, however the technology will cause a dramatic decrease in the frequency of mistakes - probably over 95%. Seems worth a try to me..
Maybe it can first be introduced in a smaller tournament as a pilot. And if everyone hates it, just get rid of it
Goaline technology can be done low tech. The main problem is the ball ricocheting off the woodwork behind the line and back into play . If a sloped ( 10degree) energy absorbing material ( e.g. wet sand) was laid from half a ball width behind the goal line extending to the back of the goal then the spin and energy would be absorbed and deflected towards the back of the net. The only situation this would not cover would be when the ball crosses the line to hit a defender behind the line tobounce back seemingly into play.
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