I've been playing with these tactics for years, personalized gegenpress. Ideal for a team with strong wingers/inside forwards. Scored 344 goals in a single season - see screenshots. Haaland: 194 goals (120 in PL) De Bruyne: 75 assists
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Discussion: 344 GOALS PER SEASON - Randy Marsh Custom Gegenpress Tactics
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After the update and some good signings, my team has struggled in the league and finished fifth, out of europe, maybe an update? I was really liking the tactic.
Tried again but changed it to positive and W2 D2 L2.
Tried it using cautious and W1 D3 L2
Balanced W2 D2 L4
I am not really sure this tactic can ever work for an average team that won a plucky promotion to Premier League, but others, luckily seem to have had success with it, so good for them.
In my Bromley save I have achieved 3 back to back promotions. This was done despite having the smallest budgets (by far) and only signing scrappy free transfers.
However, these were not ordinary promotions. These were done by breaking the league records for wins achieved, league records for points accumulated and league records for goals scored.
I was offered the Leicester job and took it as they had some class players and good budgets, whilst maintaining their position in the PL. In that summer transfer window I've signed some of the best wonderkids in the game and am very happy with the squad of players.
However, taking the Leicester job coincided with the game update - and I'm now finding the tactic to be far less effective sadly. Have you experienced this too? And if so, will you be updating the tactic to be just as effective pre update?
Ive not seen a update to your tactic.
im currently using man united and Ronaldo and martial have 20 and 14 goals respectively and im just in October
So far this is one of the better tactics ive downloaded from this site so if you dont like it DONT DOWNLOAD/USE IT
I added a Corner routine, set mentality to positive and added a few defensive tweaks, and now it scores a bit less, but also concedes less.
Overall I went from 5-2 and 6-3 kinda fixtures to 4-1 and 3-0 games.
But these are MY own changed, that I applied to my team composition, others will differ as no two teams are alike.
-My general opinion. Very good tactic for very good teams. Mid/Low teams need to add some defensive stability in the tactic to avoid leaking goals.
But that is my preference, as I like to concede as little as possible.
I never said that these tactics are gonna work for everyone, I literally said I've been using it for years to suit my play style - exactly as you mentioned in "Embarrassment number 3" lol
The fact that you think that 30 year old man with full time career and full time Master's enrollment has time to save/load or add new managers for 6 seasons now is just plain stupid.
To recap, on my 6th season I accepted Napoli job so expect to see similar results with different club in a different league (No Haaland though)
Embarrassment number 1 - if you take into account all the competitions in which City participates, it turns out that with 344 goals in a season, the team should score about 5 goals in a match. This is achieved either with xG of about 5 (which requires at least 25 shots on the opponent's goal with a weight of about 0.2, and with an average xG of a shot on goal in FM of about 0.1 - all 50, which already sounds unrealistic), or with a lower number, if an opponent of a significantly lower level plays against your team - conditional Viktoria Plzen (against whom you can still achieve such results in the Champions League, but there are simply no teams of this level in the Premier League).
Embarrassing moment number 2 - tactic, judging by the screenshots, does not look OP. Judge for yourself - this is the most classic arrangement, and quite heavily overloaded with instructions to the team when in possession of the ball. There are several instructions in the tactic itself that contradict both the match engine and the logic of the placement - a flank attack cannot work effectively itself, especially if a FB-Su sits under the IF-Su. Also, with an empty DM zone, there is not a single central midfielder performing defensive functions - and looking at the arrangements of the top teams on the screenshots, one can see the rather frequent use of CAM, which is deadly against such a hole in the defense, based on the logic of the match engine.
Embarrassment number 3 - "killer" tactics in FM-Arena testing always show powerful results. With manual control and a proper understanding of the match engine, success can be achieved with absolutely any tactic (especially when you have Haaland, and then you buy all sorts of Vinicius and Endrick, lol). Testing the tactic in the FM-Arena with poor results tells one thing - the tactic is designed to be hand-crafted to suit the author's play style, it's not the plug and play that most users would expect to see here.
Summarizing the above - based on the analysis of screenshots and results, as well as the experience of playing all versions of FM, starting from 07, I can conclude that this tactic is just the author's favorite tactic, and the statistics for gaining temporary popularity on this resource were twisted through "save-load", or adding managers to the game who will lose matches or sell you top players for a penny. I would like to ask the moderators to remove this tactic from the overall rating, but leave the thread for those who want to read and download it.
The tactic look random as fm-arena link shows.
Can fmscout staff test this tactic to confirm overall impression and the clickbait ?