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youth coaches

Started on 5 December 2007 by shimei
Latest Reply on 11 April 2008 by ragamulya
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Hey all, I was just wondering whether youth coaches are necessary I mean they take up staff spaces and wouldn't it make more sense to just bring in 1st team coaches that can train both 1st team and youths ?
Hey shimei, welcome! :)

Yes, personally I just get 9 coaches (including assistant manager) for both first team and all the rest (reserves if existed and youth squad).

Most teams won't let you get a lot of coaches, so this is a way to do it :yes

Be sure to check my training guide, I just posted it :wink
stam : Most teams won't let you get a lot of coaches

Most teams(my team) are just fu*kers.
The board has recommended that you should not have more than 3 coaches.
I mean,what the f*ck they are expecting me to do with 3 coaches????????
so you are right,the idea with senior and youth coaches does not stand.
except you are managing Barcelona and have 100 players in first team and reserves:)
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how about the working with youngsters attribute? is this stat vital to my youths development? so i guess if that is the case then it would be better to find 1st team coaches with a decent working with youngsters stat? (i guess this last part is kinda redundant)

Btw I am a Leeds Utd fan :-) go United !!!!!! lol
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I just leave my Youth Coach to do his business, as the Youths are going to develop quick anyway under any regime!

I just get a coach for each discipline, then once the little boys come out of the youth team i put them with the big boys :satisfied works for me anyway

@shimei great choice of team mate!
Hey Shimei,

As far as I remember, youth coaches don't really play significant role in developing the youth team. Normally I only bring in 4-5 coaches with really good technical attributes (they are rather difficult to find!): either they have really good attributes in coaching with set pieces or shooting (min 5 stars), and have like 4 to 5 first team coaches to complete the training regimes in the first team squad and the reserve, as well as 4-5 youth coaches to complete the training regimes in the youth squad.

Signing coaches in this way can extend the quota from your board as normally the board will only allow maximum 8-9 coaches for each team. So in total, you'll have probably more than 12 coaches in your team (if you manage a big team of course) with the division, 4 coaches, 4 first team coaches, 3-4 youth coaches, 1 goalkeeper coach and 1 fitness coach.

To set each training regime only to one coach who is really good in training that section is probably the best way to gain the maximum effect of that coach..

hmm.. do I make any sense here? :con
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awesome, well i'll take note of that and try it out

thanks :-)
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In respons to playingdrama:
I wanted to setup my training-staff similar to what you described above.

"(...) Signing coaches in this way can extend the quota from your board as normally the board will only allow maximum 8-9 coaches for each team. So in total, you'll have probably more than 12 coaches in your team (...)"

How do you get more coaches than the boards quota?
You say the quota is per each team but it seems to me that it's 1 quota for all the coaches together.

Because my board gives me a quota of 8 trainers.
I have 1 poor assistent-manager and 13 coaches:
2 bad goalkeeping-coaches, 1 bad fitness-coach, only 1 reasonable full-coach and 9(!) awfull youth-coaches.

When I offer a contract to a new coach and he accepts, my board cancels the deal.
Also with a contract for a first-team-coach, the same with any kind of coach-contract, the board blocks them all, although I only have 1 full coach and no first-team coach!

So I don 't understand how you get more coaches in than the boards quota.

Hope you can help me, Jorn
Hi Jorn,

The coaching constellation of course depends also to the budget that is given by your board, but this is not always the case.

In my save game, I normally sack the poor-attribute coaches and appoint couple of new coaches to the section where they are needed. The sacking thing can be done easier with the help of modifier tool by reducing the amount of year in their contract. In that way you don't have to pay massive compensation to your sacked coach. However, should you wish to play your game without any cheating tools this is not at all recommended! =)

In your case, you might have to sack some your youth team coaches to give some spaces for the new coach, be it first team coach or full coach. Leave some of your high-profile youth coaches up to 3 or 4 people. It depends on how important you think the youth training for you. If you think your fitness coach and goalkeeping coach are rubbish as well then do it the hard way: sack them all and get the new one with minimum attribute 17 in fitness and goalkeeping. At the end, you are going to have 1 fitness coach, 1 GK coach, 3-4 youth coaches, 1 assistant manager and 1 full coach.

Make sure you know characteristic of the coach you already have and what your team need at most. I always try to set my coach to each training section and see in which section they're good at. In that way, it is easier for you to look what type of first team coach or full coach you need for your training section.

Bare in mind, when I wrote 12 coaches, it doesn't mean that you can appoint up to 12 full coaches! It means that you can only appoint 3-4 coaches, 3 up to 5 first team coaches, 3-4 youth coaches, 1 GK coach, 1 fitness coach and 1 Assistant Manager. But as I mentioned above, the youth training regime does not always play significant role in increasing the young player attributes. So, I never pay too much attention to the youth training and only appoint maybe 2 to 3 youth coaches and concentrate more to the first team training.

Do I make any sense here? :satisfied
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Thanks Playingdrama, for your respons.

I am still missing something here.

You say: ".. appoint 3-4 coaches, 3 up to 5 first team coaches, 3-4 youth coaches, 1 GK coach, 1 fitness coach .."
That makes a total of different coaches minimal 11 and maximal 15.
Or am I mistaking? "

In my case (quota of 8 trainers, 2 goalkeeping-coaches, 1 fitness-coach, 1 full-coach and 9 youth-coaches) -and following your example- I would think the board would NOT let me hire a new youth-coach, but would let me hire a new first-team-coach.
But they don't let me.

I am afraid I have to sack 6 coaches before I am able to hire 1 new.
Sack many more than 6 to be able to build up a good coaching-staff.

And I still don't see how I can "..extend the quota from your board.." to get a total of "..more than 12 coaches in your team.." like you said.

What am I missing here?
:) you missed out my points there mate...

in your case, you might have to sack one of your GK coach (sack the rubbish one!) and another 4-5 youth coaches to spare some rooms for new coach. after if you already did that, your current coach should have: 1 GK coach, 1 fitness coach, 1 assistant manager, 3-4 youth coach and 1 full coach, right?

after the sacking, you might want to appoint from 3 up to 4 first team coach and another 2 to 3 full coach. Extend the board quota here, doesn't mean you can hire 9 full coach or first team coach before you free some room and sacking your current youth coach. You MUST free (or in this case, sack!) some of your rubbish youth coach and the GK coach too before you can appoint another first team coach or full coach... in that way you have some rooms to appoint new coach in your squad.. 8)

hope this helps..
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[Members] AtlanticSmack - - 105 posts -
Micah, shut the fuck up...Can you please not post again until your IQ is above single digits?


thanks...for everything u said and hope...but if i know u angry me and say me "low IQ" again... i just have one planning...send u to "not needed by the club in the HELL"...!!!
fu** U....!!!

u think u r GOOD/GOD manager???
u r not a good manager!!!
i'm a new comer with no good english...but i am a TUTOR how to make u go to hell....

for everything...foot bal lovers-sorry for my bad message...
i just say my feeling...

i love his game....
bobo_DjorkaEFF : [Members] AtlanticSmack - - 105 posts -
Micah, shut the fuck up...Can you please not post again until your IQ is above single digits?


thanks...for everything u said and hope...but if i know u angry me and say me "low IQ" again... i just have one planning...send u to "not needed by the club in the HELL"...!!!
fu** U....!!!

u think u r GOOD/GOD manager???
u r not a good manager!!!
i'm a new comer with no good english...but i am a TUTOR how to make u go to hell....

for everything...foot bal lovers-sorry for my bad message...
i just say my feeling...

i love his game....

hey what the f*ck is this??
what is wrong man? calm down,we do not need this.
both of you,forum is not for this.
wtf happened? hahaha im confused as fuck at the moment hahaha
he probably posted in a wrong thread.

You are reading "youth coaches".

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