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The Least Balanced Rivalry in the World

The Clásico Platense is known in South America as the least balanced rivalry in the world for a reason: as Estudiantes has 1 World, 4 Continental and 6 National titles, Gimnasia has nix. In this saga, Gimnasia makes one last attempt for some dignity.
Started on 27 May 2020 by Tango
Latest Reply on 18 July 2020 by J_ames
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Two decent signings. There are a lot of attributes that do need to be improved but you're never going to have the complete package at that age. A good season in the league and a promising start to the Libertadores campaign - when will you ever avoid Gremio?! You certainly got revenge on them this time.
I don't know much about south american football but I've been loving this! Plus, your upbeat attitude makes this a joy to read.
An incredible season that! Excellent work with a sixteen point gap and you are right, certainly not n exciting season for all the right reasons. Brilliant work and to also top your group, time to pick up number two in the Libertadores!

19: Defender shortage

Pre-season 2024/25

The agressive approach of foreign clubs towards my defenders, paying voluptuous amounts to take them away from me, made me realize that the market was experiencing a shortage for good defenders. In this scenario, the Argentine market had only two options: good defenders from clubs that won't sell them or non-convincing players from clubs that won't sell them.

If we want more depth into our defense, we ought to spend.

Transfers


IN

Lucas Gómez, 17: the board went bananas on me for spending that much money. But he is such a promising centre mid and we are swimming on cash, I thought it was worth a shot.
César Garrido, 19: you know the drill. I found a good goalkeeper, I develop him, and Europe sweep him away. Garrido is the new one.
Gabriel Herrera, 23: after selling Bindella, I was still missing on a talented and delivering left back. I hope Herrera becomes this guy.
Santiago Pereyra, 19: after selling Amione, I realized that I didn't have too much options for the centre back. I had to go for it, spending 11 million euros on Santiago, but he's good enough to be part of the first squad and can still develop.
Leandro Peña Biafore, 21: the absence of options in the market made me go for the unthinkable: I don't like getting players on loan when I have money, because loaned players are not a profitable asset. For the current situation, however, I had to resort to it.

OUT

Some big sells in there. Amione went off to China for €15M, an outstanding amount for such a common player. Even though we spent a lot on Pereyra, we still made profit due to the scarce market and my position as a harsh negotiator. And our record was beaten again: Gastón Ianni left for Roma for €26,5M, beating the former record of €25M for Agustín Bindella.

Superliga Argentina - Expectations


We were finally recognized as favorites for the title, after two titles in a row. Again, my title contenders should be River, Boca, and Vélez. This season promises to be tough on the promoted teams, as they are all expected to get back down.

Copa Argentina - 6th Round


Vélez 0-0 Gimnasia (5-3 after p.s.o.): for some reason, our luck in the cup doesn't seem to change at all. Again, another scoreless result decided on penalties. Again, we get knocked-out a lot early.

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@ScottT spoiler: I'll never avoid them. Draws in FM are lazy

@MidKnightDreary thx mate, comments like this make it all worth it

@TheLFCFan Libertadores is the obsession of any South American hincha, there's where I want to catch up to Estudiantes the most
You must hate Europe a lot. :P
Some serious cash being taken off European clubs now ;) Now you cannot claim that Gimnasia are the underdogs anymore too!
Great to see you finally getting the respect you deserve. But with that comes added pressure, pressure I am sure you will be able to deal with!
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20: Up and Down, Side to Side, Like a Rollercoaster

Superliga 2024/25 / Libertadores 2024

We are only this year recognized as the likely winners of the league, but we have been the actual strongest team for a while now. It's going to be interesting to see how the new signings deliver and whether other clubs were affected by the shortage of defenders in the market.

In the continental realm, the 5-0 vendetta against Grêmio has pumped the morale of our lads, And we need consistency in order to reach for the title for the second time around.

Superliga Argentina - Rounds 1 to 21



With weak demonstrations around the table, this season has been far less consistent than the previous ones. Even though the squad is in fact the strongest in the league, it's worth nothing if you don't show it on the pitch.

Highlights

R1 River 1-1 Gimnasia: awful piece of football from Gimnasia in this game. We almost managed to get a win regardless, but a late set piece goal diluted the injustice.
R2 Vélez 1-2 Gimnasia: in a tough start, with two of the roughest games of the season, we got 4 points. The win against Vélez was crucial, because according to my calculations, they would be again our main competition this season.
R3 Gimnasia 4-1 All Boys: in the third round we confirmed the good start and got a nice 3-goal-lead over All Boys, the surprise of last season.
R4 Nueva Chicago 2-0 Gimnasia: here it all started. A disastrous performance has costed us the win against a rather easy opponent. From this game on, the team started to wobble and to perform in dissonance with the amazing football of last season.
R5 Gimnasia 2-0 Estudiantes: at least we still had what it takes to win the Clásico. The first goal came relatively late in a game I though would end 0-0. José Luis Malo still had time to bury the second in the dying moments of the game.
R11 Gimnasia 3-2 Talleres: even though we won, there is no way to be happy about this performance. After a dominating 3-0 lead in the first half, the lads feel apart and almost gave it all away.
R12 Gimnasia 4-0 Lanús: as I attempted to make changes in our tactics in order to get back to the powerful performance of past season, the 4-0 victory over Lanús almost made me think we were back.
R15 Boca Juniors 1-0 Gimnasia: the optimism, however, didn't stand for long and started to fade away as we got back into the unreliable stage we were before. Against Boca, a game that could go either way, but, you know, went the other way.
R19 San Lorenzo 3-3 Gimnasia: this game sums up our season. We took the first hit, managed to turn it around, then managed to let it go, and in the end went home happy with a tie.

San Esteban's Clásico Platense Count: 8-4-1
All Time Clásico Platense Count: 58-68-67


Superliga Argentina - Partial Standings



My calculations were right. Vélez, however, managed to stumble less than we did, and went to the summer break with a 3 points lead. In the other end of the table, the traditional Central experience another year of high relegation risks. Lanús, runners-up of the Copa Libertadores in 2017, join them in the fight against relegation.

Copa Libertadores - Knockout Rounds


Second Round vs. Palmeiras

1st Leg Palmeiras 2-0 Gimnasia: the draw rewarded us with one of the richest clubs in Brazil, who had a wobbly group stage. Combine that with a poor display from our part, and we'll have us almost knocked-out.
2nd Leg Gimnasia 2-0 Palmeiras (4-2 after p.s.o.): in the moments preceding the match, I gave the speech of my life and the lads corresponded with a spectacular start, getting the 2 needed goals back in 19 minutes. The game, then, became so tense that no one could get anything right for the rest of the 71 minutes. On the shoot-outs, we made less mistakes and got away with the qualification to face Atlético Mineiro, another Brazilian side, in the quarter finals.


Quarter Finals vs. Atlético Mineiro

1st Leg Atlético Mineiro 0-0 Gimnasia: we got lucky Atlético were not in their best days, because we weren't either. Malo missed a penalty in the fifth minute of the game and that was all.
2nd Leg Gimnasia 2-0 Atlético Mineiro: we came up with a solid performance for the second leg and got the spot in the semifinals, grabbing two goals in the 5 minutes span between the 28th and the 33rd minute. With Atlético Nacional and Peñarol off the contention, the Semi Finals will be Brazil vs. Argentina once again. We take Santos.


Semi Finals vs. Santos

1st Leg Gimnasia 4-1 Santos: without any of their three best players (Pelé, Robinho, and Neymar), Santos is not as strong. We displayed domination and control to open a three-goal advantage for the second leg.
2nd Leg Santos 2-2 Gimnasia: Santos wanted to get back on us, so it was important not letting them. We responded quickly to each goal they scored, and we were far away from danger throughout the whole game.


In the other semifinal, Vélez knocked Flamengo out and we are going to have an Argentinean finale in the legendary Brazilian venue, the Maracanã. Argentine fans will invade Rio and you will be able to watch it in the next episodes with commentaries from Valentín Hernández and Francisco Bermúdez.

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@ScottT just a little
@Jack well, at least they are paying fairly now. We stopped being underdogs a while ago, now it's only made official
@TheLFCFan even though the pressure doesn't hit me, I can't say the same about the lads
Velez are getting stronger and stronger with the years and are your toughest opponent on all the three fronts. In the first one you lost - hopefully the other two will be for you!
Quite a stuttery start to the season for your standards. Velez have consequently taken advantage and a better second-half of the season is required. We need some more consistency and not sub-par performances against teams you ought to be beating again!

Good work on getting through to the Libertadores final once again in spite of a tough ride against Palmerias. Good luck!
Will be an interesting final against Velez considering you being top two in Argentina this year. In the league, a tad more consistency and I am sure they will drop off! Best of luck in the final!
It's like watching the horse racing with yourselves and Velez! Hopefully you come out on top.
Seems you've picked up a second nemesis/rival!

21: We're here once again

Libertadores 2024 Grand Finale

VH: TO ALL FANS WHO LIVE AND LOVE THE INTENSITY OF FOOTBALL, A WARM WELCOME TO RIO! My name is Valentín Hernández and I'm with my colleague and friend Francisco Bermúdez here at the legendary Maracanã to bring you all another La Plata FM transmission! Today, FINAL DE COPA!

Cisco, tell everyone. Why are we in Rio?

FB: First of all, Tín a good evening for you and everyone listening to us. And yes, we are in Rio for an Argentinean finale! With Flamengo and Santos in the semifinals, the Brazilian press expected a legendary Maracanã final involving the two powerhouses, but they're gonna have to watch Gimnasia La Plata vs. Vélez Sarsfield instead!

VH: Tell us Cisco: how are Vélez and Gimnasia shaping up for tonight?

FB: Of course! Both teams reach their final after comfortable wins over their Brazilian opponents. Vélez opened up everything with a 3-0 win at home and qualified with a comfortable 1-2 loss. Gimnasia beat Santos 4-1 on the first leg and got comfortably to the finals after a 2-2 draw. For tonight, they both bring changes to their line-ups:


VH: The teams are warmed-up and ready to go! Whistle in 3, 2, 1... There we go! The ball rolls, it's game on!

8'
Robertone will take the corner kick for Vélez at the right corner.
Look at it, perfectly driven, Victor Bobsin with the header!
IT CLIPS THE BAR!
Victor Bobsin nearly harmed his former club with 8 minutes in!

22'
And that goes out for a throw-in.
Fontana takes it to Sosa
Back to Fontana.
Very nice play to find a space to cross, WHAT A CROSS, LOOKING FOR SEBÁ!

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL QUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ES DE GIMNASIA!

SEBÁÁÁÁÁÁÁ RODRÍGUEZ, THE TOP SCORER GETS IT ONCE AGAIN!

FB: An inch-perfect cross from Luciano Fontana, perfectly cushioned by Sebastián Rodríguez into the back of the net! Gimnasia starts nicely with a 1-0 lead.

30'
FB: It's a good passing game for Vélez. They are behind and they need more than ever to find their best form to get back to this game.
VH: Mirá! Excellent inversion from Robertone finding de la Fuente at the right-wing!
De la Fuente gets past Sucari, HE'S GONNA SCORE!
NO, HE WON'T! EXCELLENT SAVE FROM MALPARTIDA! Corner for Vélez!

[31']
Robertone at it again.
He drives into the area, but this time Pereyra can clear it away.
It gets to Sforza, Gimnasia tries to get something on the break here.
DÍOS MÍO, MAMACITA, QUÉ PASE! SFORZA FINDS VEGA WITH A 50-YARD PASS!
Vega's fouled, we're gonna have a free-kick.

[32']
Chiappa on the free-kick. It's far away from goal, he's not gonna kick from there.
He takes it, and it flies to Vélez's kitchen.
SUCARI AT THE FAR POST!

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL QUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ES DE GIMNASIA!

A PRETENTIOUS FREE-KICK TAKEN FROM AN UNSUSPECT PART OF THE PITCH FLIES THE WHOLE ATTACKING MIDFIELD TO FIND THE HEAD OF THE DEFENDER!


FB: This ball has flown for years until landing nicely at the header of Carlos Sucari! And when it gets there, my friend, there's nothing de María could do! Gimnasia leads 2-0!

39'
Another free-kick for Gimnasia.
Chiappa's gonna take it at the right-wing.
He takes it iiiiiiiiiIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN! WHAT A MOVE FROM SEBÁ!

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL QUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ES DE GIMNASIA!

SEBÁ GETS A DUMMY OVER THE DEFENDER AND GETS ALONE TO THE BALL ON THE FAR POST! ANOTHER AERIAL PLAY, ANOTHER HEADER, AND IT'S THREE FOR GIMNASIA!


VH: Gabriel Heinze has to slam his defenders in the dressing room. This just can't be. Three aerial goals in the first half with three headers. Merits to Gimnasia and Sebá for getting two of them, but this is just unacceptable.

45'
Vélez passes and passes and passes
Matarazzo plays it with Bobsin. They have to accelerate, the first half is almost over.
At the right-wing, de la Fuente.
The right-back sends it into the penalty box
NO ONE IS THERE FOR ANDRADE!

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL QUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ES DE VÉLEZ!

TOMÁS ANDRADE CAUGHT GIMNASIA'S DEFENSE NAPPING AND WAS ALL ALONE TO SLOT IT HOME!


FB: Tín, the same thing I said about Vélez's defense can be said now about Gimnasia's. You can let someone alone in the 6-yard box like this. You can't.

45+2'
The ref whistles for half-time. Gimnasia beats Vélez 3-1.

VH: Your thoughts of the game so far, Cisco.

FB: It has been an aerial fight so far, Tín, but that doesn't tell the whole story. We have as well the story of a match in which a team tried to play the ball calmly and was ineffective in creating good chances, while the other team has taken the chances they created. As a good centre-back in his playing days, Gabriel Heinze has no alternative other than slamming his defensive pack. What we've seen today cannot be repeated, Tín, otherwise it's gonna get nasty.

46'
The ref whistles for the second half to begin.

71'
Herrera throws it in towards Sosa.
Look at that. No hurry whatsoever for Sosa.
He dribbles it back and WHAT A CROSS!

VEGA, ON THE VOLLEY!

GOODNESS ME!

THIS IS BRILLIANT!

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL QUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ES DE GIMNASIA!

EVERYBODY, PLEASE COLLABORATE WITH THE STADIUM AUTHORITIES, SLOWLY EVACUATE THE STADIUM, PAY FOR YOUR TICKETS AGAIN AND GET BACK IN! NONE OF YOU PAID ENOUGH FOR THIS! NONE OF YOU!


FB: Leonel Vega, I'm clapping to you. Fantastic volley, burying it into the top corner. De María made it even more beautiful by not moving a finger. He's not stupid, there is no saving this. Fantastic, Tín. This is just fantastic. Gimnasia gets their fourth and only a tragedy can take this Copa away from them.

73'
Quick build-up play, Vélez is throwing the kitchen sink at it right now.
Andrade.
Marlía.
Andrade.
MARLÍA.
ANDRAAAAADE, FOR THE BOTTOM CORNER!

MALPARTIDA!

THE PERUVIAN KEEPER STOPS THE EFFORT!


75'
Herrera throws it in and Sebá comes to collect it.
Back to Herrera, he finds space to his left foot!
VEGA IS THERE!
He didn't connect the way the wanted and de María collects it easily!
And the Vélez's keeper accelerates it to Marlía. LONG PASS!
The pass was not good and Gimnasia's defense line has it again.
And they come for the counter-counter-attack!
HERRERA, AGAIN, TO VEGA!
EXCELLENT DEFENDING FROM GIMÉNEZ, VEGA HAD IT ALL TO SCORE THE FIFTH!

And de María gets it again.

90+4'
¡SE ACABÓ! GIMNASIA LIFTS THE COPA AGAIN WITH A WHOOPING 4-1 WIN!


Review / Chiappa breaks assist record / Dream Team / Golden Boot / Best Player / Winning Tactic

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@OneMoreGame this time we got them good. Losing in the domestic cup is getting natural here.

@ScottT this is definitely not the season I expected. After the dominant season we had last year, I was expecting to come in even stronger this year. That clearly was not what happened

@TheLFCFan it's not like we don't have what it takes, but the lads have to take it more seriously

@Jack to be honest if it wasn't for you all noticing it, it would get past me that we're facing Vélez this much

@MidKnightDreary yeah, Vélez is surging like a footballing rival, but they were not capable of stopping us this time
What a win! A fantastic way to claim the ultimate prize in South American football. Well represented in the Dream Team too as you would expect!

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