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Which roles do you have most success with in midfield

Started on 8 July 2020 by Playez
Latest Reply on 21 July 2020 by Si49
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I usually play 4-1-4-1 wide or 4-2-3-1. And im not really getting much out of my midfielders. Most midfielders wants to play as a playmaker of some sort. I am wondering which roles are giving you success in a midfield three. Either with 1 DM 2 CM or 1 AM 2 CM.

Just some examples, how do you get your midfielders to make 15+ assists & 10 goals in a season. Its never happening. Its possible as you see the likes of De Bruyne getting stats like that with the AI, ive seen D.Silva have 20+ assists.

Any advice?
my best role is a mezzala on attack. in my current manu save bruno has top scored with 25 goals and 15 assists
i also have success with this in other saves too.
2020-07-08 12:39#275823 reuben sequeira : my best role is a mezzala on attack. in my current manu save bruno has top scored with 25 goals and 15 assists
i also have success with this in other saves too.

CM (def)
BWM (Sup)

Thats my best setup. Kessie as BMW or BBM is insane. First season he scored 17 goals for me in that postion with an 7.49 average in 40+ games.
@Playez, can I ask you what you mean by 'Most midfielders want to play as a playmaker of some sort' please?

Are you referring to the green circle here indicating those are the preferred roles?
2020-07-08 13:57#275826 Si49 : @Playez, can I ask you what you mean by 'Most midfielders want to play as a playmaker of some sort' please?

Are you referring to the green circle here indicating those are the preferred roles?

yeah i think so. When you click on midfielders, majority of them, the report would say his best positions are either advanced playmaker, deep-lying or any other playmaking roles
Hi RDF,

That's what I think the OP means also, yes.

In which case I'm possibly going to go in to a post over the green circle not really being that important.

Could get interesting... wink smiley.
2020-07-08 12:57#275826 Si49 : @Playez, can I ask you what you mean by 'Most midfielders want to play as a playmaker of some sort' please?

Are you referring to the green circle here indicating those are the preferred roles?

yes, pretty much
Ok, well the green circles for roles can I'd say 90% of the time be ignored. This in my opinion, others may well differ.

What is more important is the players green circle for the position, in your highlighted case, central midfield.The players familiarity (green circle) with the position is more important than their familiarity (green circle) for any of the roles.

I can delve deeper in to this if needed. But it can get complex. If required let me know.
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Basically, which role tend to get the most assists as a midfielder, which tends to get more goals? which performs best in defense? As it is in the majority of my saves, is that wing backs / full backs are overperforming by alot. and the midfield is underperforming by alot. Front three is also decent most of the time.
I have found across a number of saves this FM that the best set of roles have been a combination of DM - DLP (S/D doesn't matter really). then a BBM and an AP(A)

Or with a AMC I like using a DLP(S) AP (A) in the two CM spots as well as a AM(S). Using this last season my main three starters had a combined 47 goal contributions with the most games played out of any of them being 33.
Without seeing your tactic & your set up it's very hard to say exactly. If you are pushing both of your full backs/wing backs forward then you will almost certainly need a defensive cover balance in central midfield.

The roles I would list as the most 'attacking' in the central midfield position would be - MezA, CMA, MezS, B2B & APA.

If you pick one of these roles they will tend to attack more than the other roles by default... But there's more to it than that. You have to take the players attributes in to account, that players individual traits & any team instructions you have that might be contributing.

Each player role has its own individual player instructions. These make that role do something unique. But when you add in the players traits, your team instructions, your tactic, morale, your opposition... and so on... Well, there's a lot that can occur.

If you want the most attacking role for centre mid that potentially gets goals and assists then I'd choose MezA, CMA or APA. But each one is different in what it does in the match engine and it needs to combine with the rest of your tactic & team to get the most out of it.
2020-07-08 15:13#275844 Si49 : Without seeing your tactic & your set up it's very hard to say exactly. If you are pushing both of your full backs/wing backs forward then you will almost certainly need a defensive cover balance in central midfield.

The roles I would list as the most 'attacking' in the central midfield position would be - MezA, CMA, MezS, B2B & APA.

If you pick one of these roles they will tend to attack more than the other roles by default... But there's more to it than that. You have to take the players attributes in to account, that players individual traits & any team instructions you have that might be contributing.

Each player role has its own individual player instructions. These make that role do something unique. But when you add in the players traits, your team instructions, your tactic, morale, your opposition... and so on... Well, there's a lot that can occur.

If you want the most attacking role for centre mid that potentially gets goals and assists then I'd choose MezA, CMA or APA. But each one is different in what it does in the match engine and it needs to combine with the rest of your tactic & team to get the most out of it.

Just to add to this, your team mentality also plays a big part...so you will notice that your players mentality can increase/decrease along with your tactic mentality...example, positive team mentality with your central midfielder on CM(a), your CM(a) player mentality will now be "Very Attacking", this may allow him to play more directly/risky passes. But if you decide to drop team mentality to balanced, then your CM(a) may drop to Attacking/Positive

also team instructions, focussing through the middle can increase your central players mentality.
Thanks for the feedback guys :) Will try out some different stuff over the next sessions and see if it improves my midfielders play
2020-07-08 14:13#275844 Si49 : Without seeing your tactic & your set up it's very hard to say exactly. If you are pushing both of your full backs/wing backs forward then you will almost certainly need a defensive cover balance in central midfield.

The roles I would list as the most 'attacking' in the central midfield position would be - MezA, CMA, MezS, B2B & APA.

If you pick one of these roles they will tend to attack more than the other roles by default... But there's more to it than that. You have to take the players attributes in to account, that players individual traits & any team instructions you have that might be contributing.

Each player role has its own individual player instructions. These make that role do something unique. But when you add in the players traits, your team instructions, your tactic, morale, your opposition... and so on... Well, there's a lot that can occur.

If you want the most attacking role for centre mid that potentially gets goals and assists then I'd choose MezA, CMA or APA. But each one is different in what it does in the match engine and it needs to combine with the rest of your tactic & team to get the most out of it.

And im actually using RDF's barca recreation tactic atm with some minor tweaks. Tried it out with barca, now on Dortmund. Was getting very underwhelming performances from De jong and Arthur in midfield.
What is that formation, Playez?

In a 4-2-3-1 your AM will be doing most of the attacking and creating along with the wide players. You can't really expect an attacking role out of one of the two deeper midfielders.

If a 4-3-3/4-1-2-3 then it's more possible for sure but there you have to get the balance right with the wingers.

Personally I prefer my centre mids to control the game, they are there to recycle possession & get the ball back and then to my more creative role players elsewhere.

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