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Bray Wanderer's F.C. - The Irish Luck

Started on 7 May 2013 by Jer
Latest Reply on 18 May 2013 by MinusZ3R0
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Why Have I chosen Bray Wanderer's?

I want a real challenge and to play in the Irish league will certainly give me one. Plus, I've been told that Bray Wanderer's are one of the worst teams. Finally, I wanted to try a sort of the 'All English Challenge' except now that it will be the 'All Irish Challenge'

What is the 'Irish Challenge'?

The Irish Challenge is pretty self-explanatory. You must win with your team - while only using Irish/North Irish players and staff. You can use any Irish from the Premier Division to the Regional Level 3.

You can use the editor to remove all foreign players or sell them. You are allowed to use up to 3 players who are either Welsh/English/Scottish for one season. After that season is complete they must be sold.

The aims:
- To win the Irish Premier League
- To win the UEFA Champions League
- To reach the World Hall of Fame (as a manager)
- To go unbeaten in one campaign.

You can load up any amount of nations and leagues as you want, but can still only sign Irish/Northern players and staff. I loaded the Irish and Northern Irish leagues.

Who will be leading Bray to Glory?

I am someone who played the beautiful game of football and is considered to be one of the greatest Irish legends. He also is known to be an Anfield favourite. I have decided to become 51-year-old former Irish player Ronnie Whelan.

Bray Wanderer's Background

Bray Wanderers A.F.C. are an Irish football club playing in the Premier Division of the League of Ireland. The club, founded in 1942 and elected to the League in 1985, hails from Bray and play their home matches at the Carlisle Grounds. Club colours are Green and White, and it goes by the nickname Seagulls. The current manager and the Director of Football is Pat Devlin.

Bray's Ground

Good luck Jeremy :)
Good luck at Bray, this will be entertaining! :)
Goodluck :)

An Insight on Bray Wanderer's F.C.

In 1922, some members of St Kevin's Gaelic football club in Bray left the club as a result of a dispute and formed a soccer club called Bray Wanderers. They won the Miller Cup, which at the time was one of the most prestigious junior cups in the country, in 1927/28. Through the 1930s and 1940s, however, Bray Unknowns were the leading team in the town, playing in the National League from 1924 until the mid-1940s. Bray Wanderers went into decline in the mid-thirties but was reformed in 1942/43 and entered the Athletic Union League (AUL) Division 3 for the 1943/44 season. By the 1948/49 season Wanderers had reached Division 1 of the AUL but the period in between did not pass without controversy. In 1944 the club reached the Leinster Football Association Shield final but was disqualified for fielding an illegal player in the semi-final. When in Division 2 of the AUL in 1946/47 the club was expelled from the league due to the B team not fulfilling a league fixture, although the club was reinstated the following season. In 1950/51 Wanderers won the FAI Junior Cup, defeating Drogheda United 2-1. Wanderers also reached the Leinster Junior Final that season, but were defeated by Rathfarnham in the final. Wanderers won the Junior Cup again in 1953-54, defeating Ierne 1-0 in the Final. The following season Wanderers left the AUL and joined the Leinster Senior league (LSL).

Mid 1900's

In 1955/56 Wanderers won the Intermediate Cup, defeating Workmens Club 2-1 in the final. There was also a first appearance in the FAI Cup against Longford Town in 1956. They won it (Intermediate Cup) again two years later, defeating Chapelizod 2-1 in the final. In 1958/59, Wanderers clinched the Leinster Senior League, setting a new club and LSL record for the highest number of goals scored in a season. They went on to win three League titles in a row. In 1960-61 Wanderers withdrew from the LSL and returned to the AUL. From 1963, however, they once again went into decline.

By 1973, Bray Unknowns were playing in the LSL and the management changed the name to Bray Wanderers in a partially successful effort to amalgamate the two. In 1975/76 the new Wanderers won the Metropolitan Cup for the first time since 1924.

The Fans

Bray Wanderers have a small but loyal fanbase, with regular attendances generally around the 1,000 mark. For away matches the Bray Wanderers Supporters Club organises a bus to run direct to the relevant ground.

In March 2008, the Ultra group of Bray Wanderers fans "Na Fánaithe" was formed by five Supporters Club members. Unlike Ultra groups in Dublin such as "Briogáid Dearg", "SRFC Ultras", "Shed End Invincibles" and "Notorious Boo Boys", Na Fánaithe is a much smaller group, compared to the hundreds involved in those Ultra groups.

Bray Wanderer's Ground

The Carlisle Grounds can claim to be the Football Association of Ireland ground with the longest history as a sports venue. Opened in 1862 as the Bray Athletic Ground, it was renamed the Carlisle Cricket and Archery Ground later that year, in honour of the 7th Earl of Carlisle who performed the opening ceremony as Lord Lieutenant of Ireland. Later it was shortened to the Carlisle Grounds.

A new stand seating 985 was constructed in 2006 bring the seating capacity of the ground up to about 2,000. The League of Ireland side Transport F.C. played at the Carlisle Grounds from 1948-1951 before moving to Harold's Cross Stadium. In July 2009 a section of the wall around the pitch collapsed after Shamrock Rovers fans rushed down to the wall to celebrate a goal. The following year another section of the wall fell as a result of fans rushing forward, this time while hosting their league promotion playoff against Monaghan United, prompting an FAI investigation. The Carlisle Grounds has also hosted a 2011 UEFA Regions' Cup match.

A very nice post on the history of the club, this will help many readers :)
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Ronnie Whelan's football career

Whelan was born into a family of footballers from Dublin, Ireland; his father, Ronnie Whelan, Sr., was an Irish international and a key member of the successful St Patrick's Athletic side of the late 1950s and early 1960s. His brother Paul Whelan played for Bohemian FC and Shamrock Rovers.

Ronnie was a skilful and industrious midfield player, who made his League of Ireland debut for Home Farm on his 16th birthday at Tolka Park


Whelan was signed for Liverpool by Bob Paisley for a bargain £35,000 on 19 September 1979, a few days before his 18th birthday and made his debut 18 months later, on 3 April 1981, scoring his first goal in the 27th minute of the 3–0 league win over Stoke City at Anfield. This would be Whelan's one and only appearance of the season for the first team, as Whelan spent much of his first few months at the club in the reserves.

The following season Whelan won his place on the left side of the Liverpool midfield, ending the Anfield career of Ray Kennedy and also taking over his No.5 shirt. It was an excellent season for Whelan, as he settled into first team football and helped Liverpool to another League championship. They also retained the League Cup with victory over Tottenham Hotspur at Wembley with Whelan scoring twice in the 3–1 win.

In 1983, Liverpool retained these two trophies and Whelan again scored in the League Cup final, scoring with a long-range shot into the Manchester United net in extra-time to seal a 2–1 win. Whelan then played a major role in Liverpool's treble of League title, League Cup and European Cup of 1984, although he was injured for part of this season.

Liverpool's trophyless season, culminating in the disaster at Heysel, in 1985 was followed by a much more successful season for Whelan and Liverpool, under the new management of Kenny Dalglish.

Liverpool clinched another League title and added the FA Cup, with Whelan setting up two of the goals in a 3–1 victory over Merseyside rivals Everton, the first time the two had met in an FA Cup final, also it was only the third League and FA Cup "double" of the 20th century. Whelan put in some fine performances in the league as well, most notably a hat-trick in the 5–0 home win over Coventry City on 12 April 1986.

Liverpool ended the following season trophyless, losing the League Cup final to Arsenal and coming second to Everton in the league. The following year, Whelan switched to a central role following the arrival of England winger John Barnes at Anfield. This season saw Liverpool play an exciting brand of football and they won both the league title and FA Cup, although Whelan missed out on the cup final as Nigel Spackman, who had won his place in the team when Whelan was injured earlier in the season was chosen ahead of him. Whelan's name and profile was even left out of the official match programme at Wembley for the FA Cup final against Wimbledon, which Liverpool lost 1–0.

An injury to club captain Alan Hansen meant that Whelan spent much of the 1988–89 season as captain of Liverpool, a role he relished as the club progressed to another challenge for a "double". Then the Hillsborough disaster happened, and Whelan played a key role in leading the team on and off the pitch in a difficult time.

When Hansen recovered, Whelan maintained the captaincy for continuity purposes and it was he who lifted the FA Cup after a 3–2 win over derby rivals Everton. However, he missed the chance to do the same with the League title, with Arsenal taking the championship thanks to a last-minute goal from Michael Thomas. This meant that for the second year running Liverpool narrowly missed out on a unique second double.

Liverpool won the League again in 1990 but Whelan's role in the side was diminishing, through a spate of injuries. He stayed at Liverpool until 1994 but an example of his bad luck came in 1992 when he scored the crucial equaliser against Portsmouth in the FA Cup semi-final, forcing a replay which Liverpool won on penalties, but missed the final against Sunderland, in which Liverpool triumphed 2–0, because of injury. By this stage, Liverpool were no longer quite the domintant force they had been in their heyday of the 1980s. They had finished second to Arsenal in the league in 1991, and despite the FA Cup win and UEFA Cup quarter-final appearance in 1992 they finished sixth in the league – failing to make a real impact in the title race for the first time since Bill Shankly had still been manager.

One of Whelan's more forgettable moments came in 1990 when, in a match at Old Trafford, an unmarked Whelan chipped a backpass from 30 yards over goalkeeper Bruce Grobbelaar and into the net. To date, it is considered to be one of the most bizarre and comical own goals in top flight history.

Manager Graeme Souness gave Whelan more first team opportunities in the new FA Premier League for the 1992–93 season, and he made 17 appearances (scoring once) as Liverpool finished sixth once again, but this came at the end of a season which had mostly been spent in the bottom half of the table and they stood 15th as late as early March. By this stage, however, Whelan's days in the Liverpool first team were looking numbered, as the midfield was now featuring recent signings like Mark Walters and Michael Thomas, as well as breakthrough stars Steve McManaman and Jamie Redknapp.

In 1993–94, Whelan made more appearances than he had done in any of the previous three seasons – 23 in the Premier League, scoring once.[5] It was a disappointing season for the club, unfortunately, as they finished eighth in the Premier League and suffered a shock FA Cup exit at the hands of Bristol City, which had prompted Graeme Souness to resign as manager and be replaced by Roy Evans.

In all, Whelan played 493 first team games for Liverpool, scoring 73 goals. He scored in fourteen consecutive seasons.

He won six League title medals, three FA Cups, a European Cup and three Milk Cup medals in his time with the club.

Ireland Career

Whelan was a regular for the Republic of Ireland, making his debut on 29 April 1981 when he came off the bench in the 63rd minute of the 3–1 victory over Czechoslovakia at Lansdowne Road.

Whelan was part of the Irish side which qualified for the UEFA European Football Championship of 1988 in West Germany. He was in the team which memorably beat England 1–0, and he then scored a spectacular long-range goal in a draw with the USSR. Defeat in the final group game, against eventual champions Netherlands, eliminated Ireland from the competition.

Managerial Career

On his departure from Anfield in 1994 after 15 years, Whelan signed for Southend United and became their player-manager a year later, before being sacked at the end of the 1996–97 season following their relegation from Division One.

He later worked with clubs in Greece such as Panionios and in Cyprus such as Apollon Limassol but most notably with Olympiakos Nicosia. His greatest success as a manager, was with Panionios in 1999, when his team reached for first time the quarter finals of a European competition, the Cup Winners Cup, when they were eliminated by eventual champions SS Lazio with 0–4 and 0–3.

Bray have some interesting fans ;)

Good luck with this Jeremy!

EDIT: Looks like Ronnie Whelan is back on FM Scout :P
Brilliant start Jeremy, the Irish challenge sounds tough to me, but I'm sure you'll complete it with ease! :) Good Luck!
Sounds like a damn tough challenge mate but good luck! Will be interesting to see how this goes
Good luck bringing success to Ireland! It needs some.
Nice story and really tough challenge! Good luck! :)
Ronnie Whelan, what a legend! I hope he gets the success he did at Liverpool! :P

Pat Devlin leaves Bray Wanderer's

Legendary player and staff for Bray Wanderers, Pat Devlin, has decided against to stay at the club. The 'Seagulls' legend had been the manager of the 'Bray's' during six spells, the first time being back in 1986. Nevertheless, the Irish man has decided to leave Bray Wanderer's after his press interview with 'The Irish Times'.

The former Bray player said," I have to step down, as the club is not currently giving other Irish managers or other managers a chance here at the Irish Premier Division." The Irish player let a tear before saying," Bray's a great club, they've always been in my heart and I hope that they offer me an ambassador role. It would be perfect." When Devlin was asked who was 'his' ideal replacement, he gave two options. He said," It is going to be most likely my former right-hand or currently unemployed manager, Ronnie Whelan." The journalist raised an eyebrow, but continued the interview. Right before he would give another question, Devlin said," Well, I know that Whelan doesn't have the best record for being a manager, but I honestly believe that if the club want to be a top Irish side, he'd be the right man." Before wrapping the press conference, Pat said," I'll help the youngsters at Bray, anyway I can. Conor (French), Adam (Cox) and Timmy (Dunne) will lead Bray to glory. They might even break the first team this season if they replicate their performances they have had the last season."

Even though Bray are considered one of the worst teams from the Irish Premier League, their fans are confident that whoever the club appoint as a manager, will lead them away from the relegation places into a mid-table spot. Ronnie Whelan and Bray's current assistant manager, will have to fight for the spot to manage the 'Seagulls'

Ronnie Whelan

Ronnie Whelan will hold a press conference in the following days to either confirm or deny that he will be the manager of the Bray's.
I hope its not Whelan :P

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