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Still waiting for Genie Scout.. Try Scoutmeister

Thread about Scoutmeister
Started on 10 December 2010 by Dunc
Latest Reply on 7 January 2011 by Stam
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Go Scout Meister GO lol :D
Can't wait for this now! Keep up the good work.
Great logo btw stam!
# Dunc : Original thread: http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/f109/scoutmeister-new-fm-scouting-tool-t54728.html


Will be reopened when it is available to download or Foss want to release some more information or spoilers.


Scoutmeister will supposedly be completed and released before 2011so sit tight.

You layer :P
No one has lied. There was no set release date.
Meister,

I hope you have your motivation again because Eugene has just announced that only the ads-free version (which you have to donate to get) will contain PA and statistical attributes.

So those of us who can't donate because we dont have paypal accounts are in need of an alternative. And that is a large group of people by the way.
# I_Love_LLM : I hope you have your motivation again because Eugene has just announced that only the ads-free version (which you have to donate to get) will contain PA and statistical attributes.
It was said that only *new* features will be available in ads-free versions. So regular GS11 version will be the same as last year.
This piece of software will never require donations to get the "full" version.
# Genie : It was said that only *new* features will be available in ads-free versions. So regular GS11 version will be the same as last year.

Good to know and thanks for the quick response, Eugene. My mistake then. Would love to try out your new features but it's good to know that the free version will at least have the essential features.

# Meister : This piece of software will never require donations to get the "full" version.

Excellent! ;)
# Genie : It was said that only *new* features will be available in ads-free versions. So regular GS11 version will be the same as last year.

Its good to know that you're following this thread.
There is one thing which is not clear to me;

GS10 has the 'reaching maximum PA ability' shown by 1-5 stars. Now GS11 will have the same but by 0-100 percentage. I understand that the percentage is a bit more accurate but I can't see a huge difference. Or does the GS11 based on a now model?
In my opinion, the statistical based model is inherently flawed. No amount of statistics can predict the variables of how every manager trains their player.
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# mizie : Its good to know that you're following this thread.
There is one thing which is not clear to me;

GS10 has the 'reaching maximum PA ability' shown by 1-5 stars. Now GS11 will have the same but by 0-100 percentage. I understand that the percentage is a bit more accurate but I can't see a huge difference. Or does the GS11 based on a now model?

It's another indicator. Development Rate (stars) represents the estimated speed of development and doesn't predict whether player will reach his PA or not. It shows how fast player will progress.

While PD value (Probability of Development) predicts the probability of reaching PA during whole career.
# Meister : In my opinion, the statistical based model is inherently flawed. No amount of statistics can predict the variables of how every manager trains their player.

Please believe me that there is no "expert" based model which will be more accurate than statistical one. There is only one exception. If it is made by one of the FM programmer who exactly knows how FM works then it will have higher predictivity.

In my game on which the model was developed (35 years with 80 thousand of players) there are 960.000 of cases. It's quite enough to develop reliable statistical model.

Of course it depends on managing style and random. That's why it makes estimation "only" with 85% accuracy. But this value means that it will assess correctly 17 of 20 players.

And the main advantage of statistical model is that it's possible to assess its accuracy.
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Yeah, but are you taking in consideration variables like injuries, tutoring, individual training and such? Besides, this feature's usefulness avoids me.

Also, sorry if I'm coming across as blunt, I don't really intend that :)
And yes, obviously using statistics is the best way to project the player growth, but what about the variables I mentioned in my previous post?
# Genie : It's another indicator. Development Rate (stars) represents the estimated speed of development and doesn't predict whether player will reach his PA or not. It shows how fast player will progress.

While PD value (Probability of Development) predicts the probability of reaching PA during whole career.

Yes you're right. But the GS10 also predicts the PD maximum when you tick the box.

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