Let me add a little detail to the mix... Nygreen released his code open source because he was unable to keep working on it since SI hired him and he's now on their payroll.
I'm not sure how much of Nygreen's code is used in Genie by now, but I'm guessing that if Eugene feels he's unable to work on his program anymore, he would release his code open source. If I would have been him, I'd still consider whether to release it or not, after reading so many ungrateful comments.
Does he owe anything to the community? I'd say no, but he owes it to himself to deliver what he confirmed he would. I should probably be making a new 'official' announcement that Genie Scout 11 will not be released and get over with it. And if Eugene decides to email me about it, I'd just release it out of the blue without prior notice or any expectations; this should perhaps put all pressure off him.
I find it disappointing the fact it hasn't come out yet, but he does it out of the kindness of his own heart and for the love of the program and football manager. As has been mentioned before he doesn't make that much money from the utility so I don't think he would oppose to releasing the code for others to carry on this great program.
I think that the lack of response or news of genie is down to life, it must take a whole lot of time to make and I guess he just hasn't had time or something important has happened. I'm expecting it after christmas, must not give up hope eh?
Just came across a preview from the new Genie Scout and it will be a shame if it won't be released.I guess if he had released the picture so he been working on it.
After all that is his decision and we all will respect it.
News from Genie (from FM Ukraine)(translated by Google translate):
Well, I really have nothing to add. I can not even promise that will be released in 2 months. I do not want to be selfish, but I'm for him money is not paid (not counting the $ 5.10 per month = donate). In contrast to the work for which complete obstruction at least until the end of the year. Dam - is when you come to work every day around 8:30-10:00 + Saturday workday. That if no family ... I even English Cruz for a couple of months had to be abandoned.
I can only say that he is almost ready. Should be about 2 or 3 days of pure time naispravlenie couple of bugs and adding one more interesting features. So, will be done when it's done. Sorry
Let's make it short - It wont be out
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Let me add a little detail to the mix... Nygreen released his code open source because he was unable to keep working on it since SI hired him and he's now on their payroll.
I'm not sure how much of Nygreen's code is used in Genie by now, but I'm guessing that if Eugene feels he's unable to work on his program anymore, he would release his code open source. If I would have been him, I'd still consider whether to release it or not, after reading so many ungrateful comments.
Does he owe anything to the community? I'd say no, but he owes it to himself to deliver what he confirmed he would. I should probably be making a new 'official' announcement that Genie Scout 11 will not be released and get over with it. And if Eugene decides to email me about it, I'd just release it out of the blue without prior notice or any expectations; this should perhaps put all pressure off him.
please do it so this doubtful ''release dates'' rumors can come to an end.and add this to mail you are going to send genie:
''genie, i swear i don't want this scout anymore. i gave up. just tell everybody that you won't release scout 11. it will be much better than this uncertainity.
FM addicts ''
Announcement will follow shortly. I can only say one thing... it's unacceptable to see a post on a Ukrainian forum and not receiving an email from him myself. Anyway, this topic is being locked down, and any new topics about it will be deleted on sight.
The end.